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		<title>Comment on Spectral learning of hidden Markov models by JYao</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks a lot for these pointers!
I&#039;ll try to study more on this new methodology in my spare time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot for these pointers!<br />
I&#8217;ll try to study more on this new methodology in my spare time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spectral learning of hidden Markov models by shaybcohen</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The paper actually does include an appendix that shows an (unstable) way of getting T, O and \pi from the linearly-transformed parameters.

I agree we would want more than just probability estimates of observed sequences. Since the &quot;spectral learning of HMMs&quot; paper there have been several other papers that use the method of moments to get the actual parameters of an HMM -- in a more direct way than in the Hsu et al. paper.

Here is one of them:

http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.7559

and here is another (older):

http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.0683

Michael Collins and I had also a paper on using a method of moments for extracting the parameters of an L-PCFG, which HMMs are a subclass of:

http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/scohen/acl14pivot+supp.pdf

I am sure that there are other papers that do similar things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The paper actually does include an appendix that shows an (unstable) way of getting T, O and \pi from the linearly-transformed parameters.</p>
<p>I agree we would want more than just probability estimates of observed sequences. Since the &#8220;spectral learning of HMMs&#8221; paper there have been several other papers that use the method of moments to get the actual parameters of an HMM &#8212; in a more direct way than in the Hsu et al. paper.</p>
<p>Here is one of them:</p>
<p><a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.7559" rel="nofollow">http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.7559</a></p>
<p>and here is another (older):</p>
<p><a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.0683" rel="nofollow">http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.0683</a></p>
<p>Michael Collins and I had also a paper on using a method of moments for extracting the parameters of an L-PCFG, which HMMs are a subclass of:</p>
<p><a href="http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/scohen/acl14pivot+supp.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/scohen/acl14pivot+supp.pdf</a></p>
<p>I am sure that there are other papers that do similar things.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spectral learning of hidden Markov models by JYao</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice post.
The idea of utilizing spectral properties is brilliant though, it seems that this paper did not tell us about how to recover T, O and \pi.
HMMs may not become useful for most NLP tasks if we have probability estimates merely on observed sequences.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post.<br />
The idea of utilizing spectral properties is brilliant though, it seems that this paper did not tell us about how to recover T, O and \pi.<br />
HMMs may not become useful for most NLP tasks if we have probability estimates merely on observed sequences.</p>
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